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This was discussed a little bit in the PSN thread, but I think this is a notable enough topic that hasn't been publicized enough. Today, I went on to PSN to use the last $15 in my wallet, when I noticed at the 'confirm purchase' page that it was adding tax onto my purchase, something it did not do before. After some searching, I found out that last week, Sony silently added a few states to the 'charge sales tax' category of PSN. Obviously, if you live in one of these states, then the simplest way to avoid the tax on your PSN purchases is to change your address to a state that still does not charge tax, like Nevada. Here's a list of states that I've so far found started charging sales tax last week: Arizona Hawaii Kansas Pennsylvania Tennessee Edited by Cao Cao, 12 December 2010 - 08:48 PM. Cao Cao, Are you sure they are not charging tax in Nevada? If that's the case I'll change my PSN account address to my folks' address in Reno (though I'm pretty sure my mom says they charge sales tax when you buy stuff in the stores).

I'm in AZ and yeah they just started charging tax here, not sure why all of a sudden. Though of my co-workers said to change address to Oregon and he was able to bypass the tax charging on PSN, too. Every state has a sales tax. However, not all of them charge taxes on online purchases. Switch to Oregon and you'll be good to go. Do you really think Sony is the one doing this?

Perhaps, I don't know, maybe the state legislatures of the states that you posted passed a law requiring it? But yea, blame Sony. That makes sense. Please point out where I said that Sony is completely at fault for the existence of sales taxes. The point of this topic is to warn people who primarily use PSN cards, or who are saving excess funds in their wallet for something, that they may be paying more now than what they would have paid two weeks ago.

However, if you, want to turn this into a 'who's fault is this' topic without provocation, then I'll be more than happy to oblige just this once. Nobody is fully blaming Sony online taxes, that would just be moronic. Of course these legislatures are responsible for taxes, but how the factoring in of taxes is implemented on PSN is entirely up to Sony. In other words: Was it the legislators who programmed the tax collection function into the PlayStation Store, evidently with little regard for those who use PSN cards? Was it the legislators who arbitrarily decided to expand the list of 'taxed' states on PSN without any notice to PSN members? No, in both cases, these were things that were entirely up to Sony, and the resulting implementation of sales taxes is incredibly poor for PSN members who use the PSN cards for purchases instead of a credit card. That's the key point, I'm not sour on the taxes themselves, rather I dislike Sony's chosen style of implementation of said taxes into PSN.

I, along many other PSN card users, tend to plan out purchases in advance, since you are only adding arbitrary values to the wallet. If you live in one of those states that switched, then planning purchases with PSN cards has become far more difficult, since your purchasing power has now greatly decreased. For example, let's say that two weeks ago, a person decided that he wanted the Red Dead Redemption Undead Nightmare Collection DLC. If he decided to buy it at that time, then he would have only needed a $20 PSN card to buy it. If that person waited two weeks to make the purchase, then suddenly, the purchasing power of that same $20 card has noticeably decreased, as it can no longer afford games totaling out to $20 like the RDRUNC. If the person wants the RDRUNC, then his only options using are: (a) Buy a $20 card and a $10 card to take care of the added tax. $9 surplus (b) Buy a $50 card.

$29 surplus. Let's say he didn't know about the tax, since nothing was announced, and unknowingly bought the $20 card, thinking that it would cover the purchase. Now, after being told that the 'confirm purchase' screen that he doesn't have enough, his options are: (a) The $10 card, as previously mentioned. (b) Use a credit card to cover the remainder, but since there's a $5 minimum, he's still stuck with a surplus $4. Thus, those affected by the switch who currently only use PSN cards, their only options for the future will be, assuming that they want no surplus funds: (a) Switch to only paying for PSN purchases with a credit card, which allows them to use exact amounts when purchasing. (b) Change their PSN account's address to a state that is not under the 'taxed states' category, allowing.

As I said, I am not taking issue with actually paying the taxes, as no one can blame, nor is anyone blaming, Sony for wanting to stay within the law. However, I do take umbrage with Sony's poor implementation of said taxes into their system, as it creates some glaring flaws for the users who primarily use PSN cards to make purchases. I also did not like that we were not given any sort of notification of the change in the list of PSN's 'tax states,' even after the change was made, which meant that the only way to find out about it was to try to purchase something. It's not like there aren't any superior ways to collect taxes.

I've heard, though obviously I cannot verify, that Microsoft has a much simpler way of implementing taxes: Collect it up front. That is, collect the sales tax when the points are purchased, whether they are purchased online or when a points card is purchased in a store.

Under that system, the price of the point cards is increased due to the tax, but the purchasing power of the points cards on XBLA remains the same, and the potential problem of double-taxing points cards is eliminated. While I do not keep up with patent applications, it does not seem like this would be an overwhelmingly difficult thing to implement on PSN. Remove the tax on PSStore items, start charging sales tax on PSN cards, and charge the sales tax when PSStore products are purchased with a credit card. I've said my piece, now this line of discussion is over. Let's get back to the original point of the topic. Given the fact my post in the Store topic was pretty much ignored I'll post it here one last time for those who missed it and want a legal alternative to avoiding paying this small insignificant fee. Or as Cao Cao just pointed out, want to avoid paying extra money because of taxes.

Go to Amazon, buy the DLC (games, add-ons, etc.) and you get the game tax free (I just checked my Soldner X order, it was tax free) Downside is waiting for Amazon to carry the codes or missing out on a good sale, the upside no tax. Decide if it's worth the hassle. Hope that helps some of the folks in this thread trying to save a few cents, but that's the best alternative out there as far as I see it. And there ya go. I know this is irrelevant to those who use PSN cards, but not much I can do about that.

Do you really think Sony is the one doing this? Perhaps, I don't know, maybe the state legislatures of the states that you posted passed a law requiring it? But yea, blame Sony. That makes sense. States have been greedy of late when it comes to taxes. Like when some states started trying to get taxes from amazon for online sales.

I would like to know why suddenly it seems more and more states are collecting taxes from psn purchases. Why change now when theyve been tax free for years? I think it comes down to many of the states are billions in the red in their budget and need a quick and easy scheme to generate revenue. Which is what brings us to where we are today. As much as I hate to say it, Amazon isn't too far behind if some of your legislatures have their way.

(Yeah I know, bite my tongue.). And you'd be wrong. When I went to use up my remaining $10-ish in PSN credit from a pre-paid card I bought from Kmart a month or two ago it charged me tax on my purchases. Yet Amazon DOESN'T and they have a physical presence in the state. But of course Sony is just willing to bend over and let this state their customers out of 6% sales tax while Amazon is still fighting the good fight(if you ask me). They're separate issues.

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Here, the state is just creating a new tax for virtual goods. On the other hand, the 'physical presence' bit just determines whether the state can force Amazon to collect it from you. Which is important, because, as all the tax evasion discussion in this thread suggests, most people don't declare it. But hey, three cheers for Amazon, fighting the good fight to facilitate tax evasion and reduce their overhead costs.